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Invité Invité
 | Sujet: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Mer 14 Nov - 0:15 | |
| Bonsoir This very fine officer model of the Order of the Dragon of Annam, which was missing the rosette when acquired, was made by Lactinhvien, 31 Quai de la Susse, Hue, Annam during the French Colonial period. It comes to me from the collection of my mentor, John Sylvester, Jr. Ce modèle très fin d'officier de l'ordre du dragon d'Annam, qui manquait la rosette une fois acquis, a été fait par Lactinhvien, 31 Quai de la Susse, tonalité pendant la période coloniale française. Il vient à moi de la collection de mon mentorat, John Sylvester, Jr. Dans l'amitie, D  |
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Vétéran Grand Sage


 Age: 87 Localisation: PARIS Date d'inscription: 18/04/2007 Nombre de messages: 3402
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Mer 14 Nov - 0:45 | |
| Hello Dragonmaster Thank you for showing this good badge made by an unknown (to me) manufacturer. Quite an revelatation. John Silvester and I have exchanged letters and information for a very long time, decades ago. Some of the pieces in my own collection have been mentioned in his first book. I heard from him, a few months ago, that he had sold his own collection. John is, as far as I know, the finest authority on "Indochinese" awards and a very fine gentleman. Regards Vétéran |
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CUSSONNEAU GRAND MAITRE DE L'ORDRE


 Age: 55 Localisation: France Thème: Les dadailles Date d'inscription: 11/11/2006 Nombre de messages: 3886
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Mer 14 Nov - 7:33 | |
| Hello Please show us this good item  . First of all there is an error because the photo of the dragoon does not correspond to the badge. Especially it is not a production Lactinhvien; For these former badges Lactinhvien firm bought in France and sold them then with the added silver plate on reverse. Your badge is a manufacturing from Paris Lemaitre firm. I have the same badge with a hallmark "LEMAITRE ET FILS" circa 1925.  Later Lactinhvien has local but poor quality production in bronze silver plated. Regards Cuss
Dernière édition par le Mer 14 Nov - 12:58, édité 1 fois |
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CUSSONNEAU GRAND MAITRE DE L'ORDRE


 Age: 55 Localisation: France Thème: Les dadailles Date d'inscription: 11/11/2006 Nombre de messages: 3886
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Mer 14 Nov - 12:42 | |
| [img:3005]http://www.forum-insignes-medailles.net/  Hello One of the characteristic of lemaitre badges manufacture is the particular red spot on the head of the dragon.   All are from LEMAITRE firm , last have LACTINHVIEN silver back plate. Regards Cuss |
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CUSSONNEAU GRAND MAITRE DE L'ORDRE


 Age: 55 Localisation: France Thème: Les dadailles Date d'inscription: 11/11/2006 Nombre de messages: 3886
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Mer 14 Nov - 13:07 | |
| Hello again. BOULLANGER badge has the same form. LEMAITRE firm buy BOULLANGER at the beginning of the XXth century.   Regards Cuss |
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CUSSONNEAU GRAND MAITRE DE L'ORDRE


 Age: 55 Localisation: France Thème: Les dadailles Date d'inscription: 11/11/2006 Nombre de messages: 3886
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Mer 14 Nov - 13:19 | |
| Poor quality local copy of LEMAITRE badge from last years of the Annamese Empire.   Quality is like my english Sincerely Michel |
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Invité Invité
 | Sujet: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam Mer 14 Nov - 13:56 | |
|  Dear Cuss: Bonjour The close-up photo of the Dragon was from a Knight's Badge, This one is from Sylvester's Officer badge. The photos were mixed up. It looks very much like your Boulanger badge. Did Lactinhvien just change the plates on the reverse of other maker's badges? Respect, D |
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CUSSONNEAU GRAND MAITRE DE L'ORDRE


 Age: 55 Localisation: France Thème: Les dadailles Date d'inscription: 11/11/2006 Nombre de messages: 3886
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Jeu 15 Nov - 12:29 | |
|  Good question; Three crosses that I saw signed LAC... were all manufacturings lemaitre. But I also have a royal order of Cambodia signs LAC... in my collection not at home. I have to verify. Regards Cuss |
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CONTOUTOS GRAND MAITRE DE L'ORDRE


 Age: 51 Localisation: Loire-Atlantique Thème: marchand quelle que soit la saison... Pseudo Ebay: Contoutos Date d'inscription: 11/12/2006 Nombre de messages: 4276
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Ven 30 Nov - 7:45 | |
| Hello Dragonmaster, Cuss ... and others gentlemen  , Another Dragon d'Annam, with the signing of a salesman from Alger, so perhaps not the maker of it :  This medal was for sale on Ebay.fr (closed yesterday evening), I never had seen another with this mark... Best regards. CONTOUTOS |
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CUSSONNEAU GRAND MAITRE DE L'ORDRE


 Age: 55 Localisation: France Thème: Les dadailles Date d'inscription: 11/11/2006 Nombre de messages: 3886
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Ven 30 Nov - 8:22 | |
| Hello Yes another badge made by Lemaitre and sold by an oversea firm. Very good and rare item. Regards Cuss |
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CONTOUTOS GRAND MAITRE DE L'ORDRE


 Age: 51 Localisation: Loire-Atlantique Thème: marchand quelle que soit la saison... Pseudo Ebay: Contoutos Date d'inscription: 11/12/2006 Nombre de messages: 4276
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Ven 30 Nov - 9:02 | |
| Hello  , The exact name is "SCHWEITZER - 24, rue BAB AZOUM - ALGER". Yes Cuss, a good item with a rare signing, and a consequently price : 455 euros. I find in all one's things an old catalogue (without date) from the maker Lemaitre, with beautiful illustrations of the Dragon d'Annam order :  Best regards, CONTOUTOS |
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Dragon d'Annam OFFICIER


 Age: 40 Localisation: PARIS Thème: Ordres coloniaux et médailles. Date d'inscription: 17/01/2007 Nombre de messages: 598
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Ven 30 Nov - 20:42 | |
| hello all :noel4: I add a picture to a Kretly made knight of "dragon d'Annam" I have a question about this one, the dragon look like paint and not enamelled ? This is normal for this fabrication ? i have another knight unsigned with the same dragon ?  and look to the uncommon ribbon/dragon fixation  |
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CUSSONNEAU GRAND MAITRE DE L'ORDRE


 Age: 55 Localisation: France Thème: Les dadailles Date d'inscription: 11/11/2006 Nombre de messages: 3886
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Dim 2 Déc - 8:18 | |
| Hello I am very sorry I cannot answer you because I have just put under key my dragons of Annam. Your cross ( I possess two copies) is magnificent and old. It is normal that the dragon look paint and to my opinion was that it's one of the most attractive model for this order. Sorry again for the manufacture name. Regards Cuss |
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CONTOUTOS GRAND MAITRE DE L'ORDRE


 Age: 51 Localisation: Loire-Atlantique Thème: marchand quelle que soit la saison... Pseudo Ebay: Contoutos Date d'inscription: 11/12/2006 Nombre de messages: 4276
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Ven 7 Déc - 8:15 | |
| Hello  , Another variety in silver gilt, with the signing of "BOULLANGER - 24 R. DE LA PAIX - PARIS", and a dragon which is paint :  Best regards. CONTOUTOS |
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Saint Cyrien GRAND OFFICIER


 Age: 42 Localisation: FRANCE Thème: Ordres et décorations françaises Date d'inscription: 05/01/2007 Nombre de messages: 844
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Ven 7 Déc - 17:09 | |
| Hello, This is a very nice medal that you show us, Mr CONTOUTOS, today. If you sell I would be very interested. I believe we are on the good way to identify all model of the order of the dragon of Annam. Best regards |
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Marcel GRAND CHANCELIER


 Age: 40 Localisation: Toulousain...mais installé à Marseille... Thème: Décorations militaires françaises, et plus si affinités... Pseudo Ebay: 31marcel31 Date d'inscription: 07/01/2007 Nombre de messages: 2659
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Jeu 14 Fév - 19:23 | |
| Hello gentlemen  , Just to put this folder up, and to gain progress in identification of all these very beautiful Dragoon of Annam Order's insignias.... I've got the chance to find this knight insignia today:  There is a only one mark on the suspension ring, but really unreadible! As this type seems to be different, particularly in the design of the enameled dragoon, and because of its fine making (in silver, with small holes all around the cross and really superb enamels), I suppose it is probably a french made medal... Does someone have an idea about the manufacturer and approximate datation? Thanks for your interest in these medal, and for your answers... With regards  ,
Dernière édition par Marcel le Dim 6 Avr - 16:28, édité 1 fois |
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Marcel GRAND CHANCELIER


 Age: 40 Localisation: Toulousain...mais installé à Marseille... Thème: Décorations militaires françaises, et plus si affinités... Pseudo Ebay: 31marcel31 Date d'inscription: 07/01/2007 Nombre de messages: 2659
 | Sujet: Re: Ordre Impérial du Dragon d'Annam par Lactinhvien Lun 3 Mar - 20:37 | |
| Hello gentlemen  , So, no big interest in these Dragoon of Annam insignias... Just to try to identify the different types and manufacturers of crosses of this order, let me submitt to your appreciation this officer cross:  It is made in goldened silver, and has a manufacturer mark on the suspension ring, but unreadible... Does someone have and idea about a possible manufacturer and datation... Thank you for your help... With regards  |
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