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MessageSujet: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Lun 12 Mai - 11:24

Hello !

I've made this little frame with current Russian medals and awards about Caucasian operations (fightings in Chechnya and Daghestan)...1 medal should be from the Interior Ministry, an other medal from the Defense Ministry and other badges and cross medal are unofficial for veterans, is it correct ?
By the way, it's nice on my wall.
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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Lun 12 Mai - 20:29

Very nice grouping and display Zeb. I know nothing about these medals but they look pretty impressive.

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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Lun 12 Mai - 20:53

Hi zeb,

Nice display!!! I'm not sure about the badges; not my thing... But the two medals are from Veterans organisations and have nothing "official". BTW, I'm not sure (and I believe), but no medal has yet been issued by the Federation of Russia for combats in Chechnya or Daghestan...

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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Mar 13 Mai - 21:28

Hello Tunneler and Christophe,


Well, difficult to find informations...If we are certaine that crosses and badges are veterans badges, as the Caucasus Service cross, I'm not so sure than Christophe about the medals...

When you read "Wikipedia ; list of orders and medals of Russian Federation", you will find in category "commemorative medals (ministry of defence)" one "medal for participation in the anti terrorist operation in the Caucasus"...it's the top right medal.

Now about the top left medal (with which I have the diplom/certificate but of course only writen in cyrilliq, see scan), I've found similar items on the net with this description : "Russian medal for participation in battle action in the Northern Caucas.1994-2004" (Ministry of Interior)...

If someone could translate the attribution certificate...

Good evening,

zeb




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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Mar 13 Mai - 21:30

...Gosh ! Made a mistake with my pictures, twice the certificate reverse, I'm sorry !
Here is the obverse :


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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Mar 13 Mai - 22:02

Hi Zeb,

You are fully right about the document : it indicates the medal is a MVD's one (Ministry of Interior). My mistake probably, as I confused the one you posted with a quite similar one (without de dates 1994-2004) that is issued, as far as I remember, by the Russian Awards Committee. if you interested in, I will be able later to post a pic of the medal (I think I have the doc too...). But the medal you posted (with the dates) is not shown in the book Medals of the Ministries and Departments of the Russian Federation, by Ilya Kuzmichev and Alexandr Trifon, published in 2006 by Bratishka Editions (Moscow). This catalogue is the most complete and exhaustive existing today about the Medals of the Ministries and Departments of the Russian Federation. Are presented the medals (obverse + reverse), docs, regulations...
It deals with medals from March 1992 to December 2005. maybe your medal has been instituted later... I will have to check...

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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Mar 13 Mai - 22:12

Hi again Zeb,

About the other medal, often called for antiterrorism, or counterterrorism; here is the doc of this medal. No indication about its origin. Certainly not an offcial one.

Cheers.

Ch.

Obverse :

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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Mar 13 Mai - 22:14

re- coucou2

reverse :

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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Jeu 15 Mai - 12:13

Hello Zeb,
in 2003 I was assigned to serve in Kosovo for the UN forces, I met a UN Russian Police Officer who offered me the same badge than the one in the second rank at the second place. he explained that it was made to commemorate the second campaign in TCHETCHENIE. This guy received two models, a first one for a first mission in this place, and this second one, several years later.
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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Ven 16 Mai - 18:47

...Thanks a lot to "Christophe " and "Mepps" for all these informations.
Good evening,
Zeb.
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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Ven 16 Mai - 20:28

Hi Zeb,

My pleasure!! coucou2

Here is a (bad) scan of the medal I was referring to as a non-official one. It is, as you can see, extremely similar to yours, except there is no date. Unfortunately, after checking, I have not the associated doc.

Cheers.

Ch.

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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Ven 16 Mai - 21:24

Hi again Zeb,

Is your medal numbered on the reverse ? Mine has a cartridge, but blank, because unissued...

Cheers.

Ch.
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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Dim 18 Mai - 10:40

Hello Christophe,

No number on my MVD medal...and since it's in it's frame, difficult to see the reverse...But I don't remember there was a cartridge (as for the Defence Ministry Anto terrorism Caucasian operations medal, non number, no cartridge).
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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Dim 18 Mai - 12:34

Hello, :noel4:

Congratulation

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MessageSujet: Re: Russian Caucasian fightings medals   Dim 18 Mai - 12:43

Zeb a écrit:
(...)
But I don't remember there was a cartridge (as for the Defence Ministry Anto terrorism Caucasian operations medal, non number, no cartridge).(...)
zeb.


Hi Zeb,

Without seeming to be repetitive or stubborn hein5 , the Counterterrorism Medal is not issued by the Russian Ministry of Defence. Probably by a un-identified veterans organisation... Crying or Very sad

Cheers.

Ch.
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