Bonjour a tous,

I have seen in photos some members of the 3 REI wearing the Brazilian Jungle School brevet (embroidered badge, silver thread jaguar head in a shield between two wreaths) and title SELVA (possibly metal, white letters on beige backround) in their uniform sleeve. Are they allowed to wear the metal version of the badge? Which other Brazilian Jungla School insignias they possibly wear?
Which other non-French insignias legionnaires are allowed to wear in their uniforms?

Cordialement, Harri.

Bonsoir @ vous,
Le brevet que vous parlez, est porté par les officiers, sous officiers du CEFE qui ont passé le stage à MAnaos au brézil. Peu sont les élus dans les rangs de la légion, il n'y a aucun militaire du rang qui posséde ce brevet. LCT SERVEILLE le portait sur sa manche gauche, il fut l'un des premiers à avoir passé ce stage réserver à l'élite.

fred a écrit:

Bonsoir @ vous, par les officiers, sous officiers du CEFE qui ont passé le stage à MAnaos au brézil. Peu sont les élus dans les rangs de la légion, ce stage réserver à l'élite.

Good evening has all Good evening Fred and Harri J very bad sui in English I thus have Fai call has a translator on line that of Word 2007 .
to answer has your question there is also under officer and officer colo or other of the 9° RIMa which fon training course (at the time or I was there 95 A 98 I saw 3 pennies officers and 3 officer of the 9° to take part in it) who make us two officer colo and legion and two pennies officer colo and legion and I am confirmed it is really of the man of exemptions
Amicalement slayer29

Bonjour and thanks to Fred and Slayer 29 for their kind answers.
I would really appreciate if someone could provide a photo of all possible Brazilian Jungle School insignias that are used by French soldiers.
Also of any other "foreign" qualification insignias used by legionnaires. I know that they are awarded some parawings, especially European ones. I have seen them using (in photos) at least German and Italian Italian jumpwings after the award ceremony of combined rehearsal, but obviously they are not allowed to use these wings after that. So could use any piece of information, which other insignias of other countries are used? Also I know that they are allowed to use the German Sportsbadge as a medal.
Salutation, Harri.

Hello Harri,

Sorry, I havn't the photo you're looking for.
By the way, about para wings, I already have seen worn on French military chests Thai and US para wings, Dutch, Belgium para wings and more frequently Slovak, Czech and Polish para wings.
I send you these 2 scans, from the same French soldier. One is his German para wing diploma and the other one is his Dutch para wing diploma.
Best regards,
Zeb.

...and the Dutch para wings :

zeb

Thak you Zeb,

for valuable information and scans.

Best Regards, Harri.

Hello Harri,

An other German para wing diploma, attributed to one of my best friend in 1988. At this time, Alexandre was sergeant at the CNEC/1°Para Choc.
Best regards,
Zeb.

Hi
Officers and NCO of the 3 REI are going to MANAOS in order to serve after as instructor in the 3REI jungle school (CEFE). But some others could also go in other south american jungle or special forces school (Venezuela, Equateur,Colombie,Surinam...), and they are wearing the shoulder patch (CAZADOR, CONDOR, SELVA , TIGRE.....)

Best regards

I will try to find some photos for you....

Bonjour for all and especially for Raider30 .
Thank you very much for your answer. I really would like to see photos of legionnaires or sous-officiers wearing those insignias you mentioned, or even just the insignias. So far my most reliable source has been Kebi Blanc magazine and although a great journal, insignias (or medals) are not a main issuen in it . So far I only have seen a photo of a sergent (3REI) wearing the SELVA shoulder title (metal I think) .

Cordialement, Harri.

Bonsoir,

Insignes portés à Manaus en 1985 :




Très cordialement.

Hi Harry
Single Légionnaire could not go to such training. Only OFFICERS and NCO. But it happens that a complet platoon could go to a single training in a south american country.
For CAZADOR stage in VENEZUELLA, there is a shoulder patch and a metal badge...
Here you can see a CAZADOR shoulder patch

Best regards


[img][/img]

Hi Harry

Looking for more informations, I found in magazine KEPI BLANC n° 639 P. 48 and 49 (december 2002) an article about the jungle stages in south american countries. And there is a photo from a NCO with 2 shoulder’s badges (SELVA Ecuador, TIGRE).
Most of the time, the shoulder badges can be tissue or metal made.

Best regards.

][/img][img][

Badges of the venezuelian army :
- the venezuelian Army badge
- the commando school badge
- Venezuela shoulder patch
- Cazador patch
- metal cazador badge
- a number (on such stage you are only a number)
- Army, Navy, Air Force, and Guardia nacional (as Gendarmerie in France) badges

[img][/img]

Bonjour again,
and tahousand thanks to captainbop and Raider30 for most needed information and photos. Just what I have been hunting for years. I had seen the last photo in KB but I mistakenly thought those SELVA and TIGRE titles were Brazilian ones.
If you or anyone else has pictures of those other insinias mentioned in the message of Raider30 (colombie, Surinam etc.), please remember that I would like to see them.


Tres cordialement, Harri.

Hi Harri
In order to help you, if you find some photos or badges :
SELVA = ECUADOR (14 weeks)
TIGRE = ECUADOR (5 weeks)
CAZADOR = VENEZUELA (3 months)
LANCEROS = COLOMBIE (3 months)
CONDOR = PEROU

Best regards

Thank you again Raider30 for your help.

Do you know if other Legion units allow sous-officiers attend to other foreign military courses, exept para course which has been already discussed in other section of this forum .

Best Regards, Harri.

Hi Harri
Here you have a better picture.

Best regards.

[img][/img]

Bonjour Raider30 and thank you very much .
The best possible picture.

Cordialement, Harri

Hi Harry
Here you can see 2 different badges of the LANCERO stage in COLOMBIA (3 months)
1) metal badge
2) tissu badge for combat jacket (the NCO put it for me on his arm only for the photo). Sorry the picture is not very good.

If I found other badges of south american special stages (jungle, special forces...), I contact you one more time.
Best regards.

[img][/img][img][/img]

Hi Raider30 again,

thanks for the pictures. I am always interested in seeing more South American Special Forces (or any other unit) if worn by members of the French Army and especially soldiers of 3e REI or any other Legion unit.

Cordialement, Harri.

Bonjour a tous ,
I noticed in the KB magazine 708, page 12, that there seems to be a new version of the Brasilian Jungle School brevet worn on right side a chest instead of sleeve . Seems to be embroidered (or bevo) white on green oval backround. Does anyone have a proper photo to show us the latest design?

Cordialement, Harri.

Bonjour ,
enclosed the photo mentioned in my previous message. Both men seem to have the same brevet, or do they???
Better photo or scan requested of this new version of the Jungle School brevet.



Cordialement, Harri.

Hi Harri

Le chef de bataillon on the photo was in MANAOS in 1997. His brevet is not a new one.
It is always the same metal badge. And the tissu badge is also te same.

You can wear the Manaos brevet with the oval background or not.

Best regards.

Merci Raider30 for valuable information.
I didn't know about the oval backround, so I thought it is completely new insignia.

Is it just any green piece of oval cloth or felt????
Is there some sort of an official version to be worn with the metal badge?
Are there official instruction about the size of the backround?
Do Brazilians wear it with or without the backround oval?

Cordialement, Harri.

Hi Harri,

I couldn't answer you completly today. I will try to know if there is other color background. I think it is only a single piece of cloth.
In France, I think also that there is no rules about the wearing of this background.

Best regards

Hi Raider30 again,
and thanks for answering so patiently to my silly questions.
All possible information you have or get about the subject is most wellcome.

Best Regards, Harri.

Hi Harri

I found an other type of LANCERO badge.
With the 2 others pictures, you have now the 3 different Lancero badges

Best regards

[img]http://www.forum-insignes-medailles.net/[/img]

Thanks to Raider30 for most valuable information and a good photo. Completely new insignia for me.
Any idea where to get some of these South-American, Legion worn insignias seen in this chapter of the Forum.
I already tried in the "Wanted" section without luck?

Cordialement, Harri

Hi Harry

Each officer and NCO came back of their stage with just the badges they need.
So it is difficult to ask them to sell their own badges.

Only someone of the 3 REI can help you.

Best regards.

Merci Raider30 although the answer was just what I was afraid of.
But no problem, I still survive and keep on hunting.

Cordialement, Harri.

Hi Harri.
I've got some news for you. An officer coming back from the 3 REI gave me some informations.

The back patch of the brasilian jungle school brevet is always green.
But the border can be gold (instructor) or black (monitor).

Most of the french officers and NCOS wear the brevet patch on the shoulder. And most of the others didn't use the back patch when they are wearing the metal brevet.

Best regards.

Hi Harri,
At the time I was in Guyana (86-88) only two officers who went to the jungle in Brazil stage 1 of the 3rd REI and 1 of the 9th and BIMA this year. I had the chance to review with an officer who was stationed in Martinique and who returned the "stage of cons guerillas" in Colombia he wore over his patent paratrooper, but little red badge on the photos that I still I can not tell the reason. This other information on these patents abroad wore French.
Regards Thierry

Merci again for thergi and Raider30 who still bother to deal with me with this most interesting subject. Most valuable information again. Thank you both.

And if anyone has the green backround with gold or black border, I would like to see a photo or scan.

Cordialement, Harri.

Hi Harry

Somthing new : you can find a scan of Manaos metal badge back patch.
The officer who let me scan his back patch, tell me that the only différence between a monitor or instructor badge is the colour of the metal badge (gold = instructor ; silver = monitor). The back patch is always the same.

Best regards

Merci again Raider30
for most valuable information and the photo. Now I know exactly what to hunt as I need one for my collection.

Cordialement, Harri.

Hello to all
Here is a patch recovered this week in my mailbox.

Best regards

Zill

Bonjour a tous ,
and thanks for Zil for a nice photo.
Enclosed photos of the Brazilian Jungle School brevets in gold and silver metal with cloth backround.



Cordialement, Harri

Bonjour a tous,
enclosed a photo showing old and new versions of the Brazilian Jungle School cloth brevet, one version embossed grey on brown transpaprent vinyl type soft material, and obsolete brass version.



Cordialement, Harri.